A poll is about the most action people are willing to take.

Very few will take even the first step to actually make things happen.

Why would I want to kick content out of Catch? No one, I enjoy killing all of you. Pretty much everyone out here feels the same way, otherwise they wouldn't be here.

Not really, people who rely on those bigger coalitions would be wiped out. The current situation out here is fine, tons of content every day. Just got back from a op with 450 blues in system to push the Russians back out where they belong. There's a reason why these coalitions are out here.

an infestation of roaches is not an alliance

Yours.

Goons

Voted goons

Was disappointed with the lack of checkbox

All of them?

highsec braveheart thread number whokeepscountanyway

how many mission runners in dual tanked ravens do you predict you'll rally to your cause

Northern Associates.
Brothers of Tangra
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere

If I had to pick just one I'd pick NA. because it would be humorous to see the NC. bunch lose great swathes of space yet again, and be utterly annihilated by the CFC in the ensuing chaos.

Even better

No, they'd die like dogs.

You misunderstand.

If they could take sov on their own, they wouldn't be renters in the first place.

The reason they play under someone else's rules is because this is a sandbox. The rules are whatever you can enforce with your military might. The various nullsec blocs can enforce the rule that if you want to live there, you have to pay them.

No checkbox no poll!

btw I voted goons as well, but would settle for having the mittani kicked from goons.

I vote for "Grand alliance for the development of the ideology of psssshhhhh"


I just need to form it first.

I thought it would be funny for Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere to suddenly see their renter backbone sovless. Voted for goons mk 3.

MOA is too busy crying about us squatting in "their" npc null systems and devaluing Mordu's Legion LP by goonrushing the missions and BL aren't interested in dealing with the slog of SOV warfare. As soon as the goodfights evaporated (and they would, because that's how it's done) so too would BL.

It's becoming increasingly clear that you have zero practical experience on any aspect of SOV warfare.

The idea of putting together a 1500 man bomber fleet is patently absurd and shows how little you understand about what you are discussing. I mean, don't get me wrong, the CFC could do it if we wanted to but we have no reason to do that. For almost anything you would use bombers for, 150 will do it just as well as 1,500 and you're looking at causing huge burnout among your line members (and by a similar measure, 1,500 bombers in one place aren't dramatically harder to shut down than 150)

The other issue is that bomber fleets grinding down structures can generate timers, but can't actually do anything in the fights that determine victory. Suppose your bomber fleets attacked on of our systems. We could completely ignore them while they online SBUs, then let them spend a week bumping things through various timers, and then just drop a stratop fleet on the last one and all their effort would have been wasted because they can't actually fight us.


This is pretty much what we mean when we say 'zero practical experience'.



PS going by outward appearnces MOA pretty much lives to nurse their hate-boner for us but they're a 1,500 man alliance with no logistical backbone so that's pretty much limited to dropping dumb ratters and getting camped into stations.

Yeah thats MOA in a nutshell. Also, grinding Sov structures with 1500 people would take just as long as with 150 because of tidi. Except you **** off 10 times as many people.

We would let you spend all week grinding every single timer, and then rep it in half an hour with a bunch of carriers. Or maybe just play games with the TCU, or set the timers to an unfavorable timezone so you had to alarm clock for every one of them. Or probably all of the above because we are bastards.

You are welcome to try. But I doubt you'd have any better luck than the ones who came before you.

Harry Forever at least managed to become a scourge of our cyno alts. That's your high water mark.

If you think Sov warfare is as easy as getting some dudes together for a weekend and rolling around blowing up any structures you come across I have some disappointing news for you. Have fun hauling, anchoring, and onlining SBUs across the breadth of Deklein I guess.


Ditto if you think forming a massive coalition capable of taking on one of the established powers is as easy as going "Grr [X]" on the EVE-O forums.

I mean, I'm definitely not saying you shouldn't do this. We're on a pretty long dry spell between wars so more stuff to that involves shooting ships with players inside them is great news. I'm just saying that people with vastly more resources, connections, and experience have tried to destroy us many times and we're still here.

Your most dangerously wrong assumption is that our coalition members are slaves and that if you just pull the wool back a little bit they will realize that the power was in them all along and completely abandon their allegiance to the CFC. I'm not going to spend much time on our internal politics but the TL:DR is that it doesn't work like that at all and the fundamental concept that makes the CFC work is that we will show up to help each other. If you're going to make plans to attack any individual alliance in the CFC, makes plans to deal with the entirety of the CFC because that's what you're going to be up against should you prove to be a real threat.

If you want to bust open Sov null, your best bet is to try HERO space as they are the newest, and therefore most likely to make mistakes that you can exploit. They also don't have the super capital backbone we and N3PL have, and *may* not have the political connections to call in either bloc for support if you somehow actually manage to start taking space.

Your only real chance for success is to find a piece of space which is of no material or strategic value and is currently occupied by a scarecrow. Basically what HERO did to -A- space.

While Sov mechanics and super caitals/titans exist in their current form, there will be no way to break up the map into smaller fiefdoms. The mega coalition is the evolutionary conclusion. It is a consequence of the game mechanics. Even if internal strife caused either the CFC or N3PL to collapse, it would just eventually be replaced by another mega coalition in time. Probably made up of the same key actors as the previous coalition.

If you want variety in null, Sov overhaul and supercapital changes must occur first. Unfortunately, nobody has any real certain idea how to go about it.

Kick Goons now, they're awful

Also hi, how are you all today